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But I had to share this. 



Apparently cracked.com thinks this is a twist that should have been in the movie and would have made it better:




WTF? UM NO. MAYBE IF YOU WANTED TO MASS TRAUMATIZE AUDIENCES ACROSS THE GLOBE AND BANISH HOPE, LIGHT, ANY NORMAL CONNOTATIONS TO GROWING UP AND MOVING ON ETC. 

Seriously. How many grown ups and kids alike were sobbing wrecks by When She Loved Me? Adding blazing inferno does not aid. 

....it's sort of a funny trolling in THEORY, but in practice nooooooooooooooooooo.


If life were a movie, Pixar would poised with the potential to have ultimate power over humanity.

Date: 2011-06-14 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chameleon9999.livejournal.com
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I know, dude! I found a lot of sites that thought this would be "edgy," or some bullshit like that, LOL. I've only seen maybe, one or two series that killed off its entire cast and it felt like everything they had accomplished was rendered null. (I'm looking at you Forever Knight!)

Thought the Wizard of Oz one was pretty funny.

Date: 2011-06-15 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esoraxela.livejournal.com
You aren't kidding re: trying too hard. It's okay to like happy endings okay?! Plus for the TS trilogy it WOULD have rendered the series void, because TS was constantly a story about working towards a happy ending like the Rolling Stones song. You can't always get what you want, but if you try real hard you'll get what you need. In this case, you might face losing what you thought you needed to be happy, but you and your heart CAN be strong enough to endure it, and love again. Each movie did that, with Woody re:jealousy, in T2 with actively knowing some things won't last forever, and T3 with letting go and actually moving on. It was always about growing up, and killing them all off with Woody only able to be happy in an IMAGINED ending would have been like saying, THERE'S ONLY FEAR AND PAIN IN GROWING UP, YOU WILL NEVER BE AS HAPPY, GIVE UP NOW rather than a message of striving for life in all it's achey forms and phases.

holy tl;dr batman!

I'm trying to think of a show where it was ROCKS FELL, EVERYONE DIED and it was good, but I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE ONE?

Date: 2011-06-16 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chameleon9999.livejournal.com
I think Angel might have tried to do something, but A) it was canceled and that's why it had an ambiguous ending and B) it's being continued as a comic, so mostly everyone is still fighting the good fight.

Yeah, an imagined ending is super-cheap and I've seen it done in some series/animes. :\

Also as a side note sort of related, I'm getting tired of seeing a bad guy reforms himself, then he immediately gets killed like not 2 minutes after reformation. "Oh hey, this guy turned out pretty awes-oh wait, he's dead because of this here asshole that came out of nowhere."

Date: 2011-06-17 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esoraxela.livejournal.com
See, I agree that I can't count Angel because Whedon already knew what he was going to do and it lived on in the comics.

What anime? Anything iconic/mainstream? The CLOSEST I can think is Cowboy Bebop, but only Spike/Julia/etc died. The other characters (who I loved most tbh) were still going.

God yes. It happens most of the time in manga, which I can SORT OF forgive because most of the time I'm waiting weekly to hear what's going on so emotionally it feels longer for those characters?? lol. Last minute character redemption is probably the hardest thing to do, especially when there was ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBTEXT about it coming. Like, you know one thing (of many) that I loved about Angel? In his mind, there WAS no redemption. That he did so many horrible things, no matter how much good he did, he was still going to go to hell when he was finally dead, but he was going to keep fighting and doing good ANYWAY. *That* is a truly redeemed character; who doesn't just play nice for the Very Special Episode Featuring Not So Evil (No Really! Here's a Bunch of Never Before Seen Scenes Too to Prove It!) X Character, but continuously owns up to his or her actions. Other television shows are not this bright (I'm looking at you, Vampire Diaries), like, BBC's Being Human sort of subverts this by having a character *purposely* kill her after she does something redeeming, *because* she knows she wouldn't be able to keep it up. It's done again for another character after he does something atrocious. That's sort of taking the easy way out to some people, but it's sometimes also being honest.

I had a major problem sympathizing with certain characters like Snape because of this peeve for 'redemption! now death - don't you feel BAD?' (I KNOW I KNOW I AM SO UNPOPULAR) lkjlkj. So many feelings.

Date: 2011-06-17 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chameleon9999.livejournal.com
I was watching an episode of Kekkaishi, which I don't really watch but occasionally, and they killed off this one monster chick right when she was almost about to be a 'good guy,' and/or return to the human that it took her like 50 years to realize she was in love with. I don't really know her full backstory, but it's stuff like that I can't stand. Oh! Nephlite from Sailor Moon, um...Wizardmon from Digimon doesn't really count since he was a double agent, but that one REALLY fucking pissed me off at the time.

Ha, I guess it really pisses me off when there's an unrequited love story attached to it.

I can't keep track of all the manga I've read since some series I'm forgetting about are still in tubs in the garage, but I'm sure I've come across it *somewhere.*

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