See, I agree that I can't count Angel because Whedon already knew what he was going to do and it lived on in the comics.
What anime? Anything iconic/mainstream? The CLOSEST I can think is Cowboy Bebop, but only Spike/Julia/etc died. The other characters (who I loved most tbh) were still going.
God yes. It happens most of the time in manga, which I can SORT OF forgive because most of the time I'm waiting weekly to hear what's going on so emotionally it feels longer for those characters?? lol. Last minute character redemption is probably the hardest thing to do, especially when there was ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBTEXT about it coming. Like, you know one thing (of many) that I loved about Angel? In his mind, there WAS no redemption. That he did so many horrible things, no matter how much good he did, he was still going to go to hell when he was finally dead, but he was going to keep fighting and doing good ANYWAY. *That* is a truly redeemed character; who doesn't just play nice for the Very Special Episode Featuring Not So Evil (No Really! Here's a Bunch of Never Before Seen Scenes Too to Prove It!) X Character, but continuously owns up to his or her actions. Other television shows are not this bright (I'm looking at you, Vampire Diaries), like, BBC's Being Human sort of subverts this by having a character *purposely* kill her after she does something redeeming, *because* she knows she wouldn't be able to keep it up. It's done again for another character after he does something atrocious. That's sort of taking the easy way out to some people, but it's sometimes also being honest.
I had a major problem sympathizing with certain characters like Snape because of this peeve for 'redemption! now death - don't you feel BAD?' (I KNOW I KNOW I AM SO UNPOPULAR) lkjlkj. So many feelings.
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Date: 2011-06-17 01:57 am (UTC)What anime? Anything iconic/mainstream? The CLOSEST I can think is Cowboy Bebop, but only Spike/Julia/etc died. The other characters (who I loved most tbh) were still going.
God yes. It happens most of the time in manga, which I can SORT OF forgive because most of the time I'm waiting weekly to hear what's going on so emotionally it feels longer for those characters?? lol. Last minute character redemption is probably the hardest thing to do, especially when there was ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBTEXT about it coming. Like, you know one thing (of many) that I loved about Angel? In his mind, there WAS no redemption. That he did so many horrible things, no matter how much good he did, he was still going to go to hell when he was finally dead, but he was going to keep fighting and doing good ANYWAY. *That* is a truly redeemed character; who doesn't just play nice for the Very Special Episode Featuring Not So Evil (No Really! Here's a Bunch of Never Before Seen Scenes Too to Prove It!) X Character, but continuously owns up to his or her actions. Other television shows are not this bright (I'm looking at you, Vampire Diaries), like, BBC's Being Human sort of subverts this by having a character *purposely* kill her after she does something redeeming, *because* she knows she wouldn't be able to keep it up. It's done again for another character after he does something atrocious. That's sort of taking the easy way out to some people, but it's sometimes also being honest.
I had a major problem sympathizing with certain characters like Snape because of this peeve for 'redemption! now death - don't you feel BAD?' (I KNOW I KNOW I AM SO UNPOPULAR) lkjlkj. So many feelings.